Glue

I've come to find out that the glue works just as good as water so far. I've replaced water with Elmer's glue and I still get a voltage. So Yes Glue does work! Its amazing that glue works because when it dries it has lost all of its water, so why does the cell still work? So far I know that Caulk and Elmer's glues work, so other glues might work as well. I'm calling this idea the Glue Battery for obvious reasons. It works for both dissimilar and same metal plates too.

Move away from Water

I would like to find a different substance besides water. I'm not talking about being anti water but substances that hold themselves together. Like the same metal concrete cells that I made needed water but dry and hold the plates and still produce power. So this got me thinking, I need something like concrete but drys faster. Then it hit me, glue. Glue will do the same as concrete but dries faster. The only glue type thing I have in the house was all-purpose Caulk and it seems to be working. I'm getting a voltage from the "Caulk same metal battery". I'm going to let it dry overnight to see if the voltage stays or will it go away when it dries.

If this glue idea works I'm thinking maybe glue as simple as "Elmer's glue" would work or some strong "lock-tite" glue could work. More testing will be done but I can say that the caulk glue is working now, but when it dries I don't know.

Using Glue could bring back the smaller straw cells because the dreaded air bubbles won't form like water.

Magnets

I've been playing with the magnetic idea of the plates on the same metal water battery. I been swiping a magnet on a plate as to make it magnetic, but of course aluminum is not ferrous metal.

It does seem that when done right I can make the plate loose power by swiping a magnet on it. I had the cell starting out at 450mV but swiping the plate brought it to 350mV. I also the voltage increase too when swiping in a different way but more testing needs to be done to confirm all of this.

Something about water

There's something about water that makes the same metal water battery work. We all know that water is conductive but If I were to use something like a conductive plate instead of water the cells wont work due to it being shorted out. How can something be conductive but yet not short something out like you would expect? I just can't swap out water for a copper plate and expect it to work like water, but yet both the water and the copper plate are conductive.

Also looking at these cells also shows that not all the voltage is coming from the galvanic reaction that we assume with the dissimilar metal cells. Looking at my cells shows that voltage is there even though we use the same metals for both plates, so a fraction of the voltage we get from dissimilar plates is not from the galvanic reaction. I bet you could apply everything I've learn about the same metal water battery and apply it to a dissimilar metal water battery to increase its voltage, such as having one plate barely touching the water. I bet the same rules could apply, like one end of the plate could be more attracted to the other end of the other plates, such as with polarity. Maybe you could combine the two, where you have a dissimilar plated cell combined with several similar plated cells to make a very unique cells.

North pole South pole

I'm thinking the aluminum plates of the same metal water battery are like magnets. where a magnet would have a north pole and a south pole I find that the aluminum plates also have something like a north pole and a south pole. I've made a video showing that when I put one end of the plate into the water I get a negative voltage (south pole) and when I switch to the other end of the plate I get a positive voltage (north pole). Also You may notice that I get a higher voltage when I'm in the positive range and thats due to the other plate being attracted to the plate, Like a north pole of magnet being attracted to a south pole. So You could say that these cells are magnetic.

Amps and Spacing

So I've gotten back from my local hardware store with some bigger pieces of aluminum plates. I picked up a 6 inch by 24 inch thin sheet of aluminum for testing. I want to prove that the more aluminum the more amps. I find that I have proven that the more aluminum you have in the water the amps you get. The less of aluminum you have in the water the less amps you have.

But there was one more thing that I found out that gave me more amps and that was spacing of the plates. The closer they are the more amps I get. So now spacing has entered the picture.

With this increase of spacing I was able to charge my 10 Farad super capacitor, this was something that the other plates could barely do. My 22,000mF capacitor also charges faster too.

So Plate size affects amps!

Amps

It seems that I've been going after the wrong thing with these cells. I've been chasing voltage when I should have been chasing amps. These cells don't like to be in series so going after volts is pointless. Going after amps will allow me to charge capacitors and the more amps the faster the charging. I need to find out how to increase amps.

When I go after amps I'll be able to make the same metal water battery into a captret style cell that will cut down on the number of cells needed. It started with the captret idea and I wanted to know how they work so it developed into the same metal water battery and now it seems that I'm going back to the captret. It's like a circle.

I do think that amps are increased with plate size, so if this is true I see bigger plates and bigger cells in the future. If plate size increase amps then I'll be able to charge big capacitors faster and either put those caps in series or hook one or two up to a joule thief and finally run my LED!